Comments on: Catcalls of the North American Drunken Asshole Harass Daughter https://citydadsgroup.com/catcalls-daughters-handle/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=catcalls-daughters-handle Navigating Fatherhood Together Wed, 26 Jul 2017 19:47:50 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Ruthie https://citydadsgroup.com/catcalls-daughters-handle/#comment-3663 Wed, 26 Jul 2017 19:47:50 +0000 https://citydadsgrpstg.wpengine.com/?p=688548#comment-3663 Sadly, my first reaction to this was “Wow, how did she get all the way to 15 without being catcalled?” (Pretty sure my first catcall was at 11 or 12, and it was very unexpected.) Also sad that the truth is, this really was mild in comparison to how most catcalls go, and while this may be the first, it won’t be the last, because while people in general might be okay and most people are pretty nice, plenty of individual humans suck, many suck A LOT, and everyone sucks a little at some point in their lives. At this point I would be so numb to a comment like this it probably wouldn’t register, but that’s more a testament to the reality of life than anything else.

For what it’s worth I’ve found snark actually works well against the vast majority of guys, because many of them HAVE been taught that their attention is some sort of compliment (eyeroll), so disabusing them of that, even while they are drunk, is often gratifying and not going to be too much of a problem, especially in public. It can even be a fun sort of game to see just HOW CLEVERLY you can crush that idea given the material they’ve provided you to work with. “FIFTY POINTS FROM SLYTHERIN, DRUNKO DRACO, SOBER UP AND STOP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF” would probably have gotten the point across. I’ve told guy’s before that their comments literally just made me a lesbian in reaction, etc.

Part of being a young girl is actually about *developing* your own instincts for this kind of thing, and unfortunately that’s not something dads can help with because they tend to give unrealistic advice, having no sense of the environment themselves, but even fellow girls and adult women all draw their lines in different places. Much of it is about personal comfort zones that are highly customized to each person. (I am clearly comfortable with yelling back in most instances because I somehow managed not to let the socialization to be nice take and took the “men are afraid women will laugh at them” adage as a pro tip; many women aren’t and draw their lines in different places, and I myself get a vibe that results in me ignoring and speed walking away sometimes, and I listen to it.)

What would be super awesome is if more GUYS talked each other down from catcalling, because I’m convinced more than half of it is a show for peers, and if the show loses its luster then it could die out more. Alas, that is not work I can contribute to. That’s on the dudes themselves.

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